problem with whetstones
Posted by HotLegs1 on Oct. 21, 2024I have just used 200 whetstones and failed to refine my equipment not happy I have never lost so many whetstones at once without refining a piece of equipment and I got the whetstones from the auction house
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Ima get YOUR STONES WET
sadly that can happen. It depends on the refined equipment you are using the higher the refinement the harder it is to get it up another percent. I always tend to use about 800 wet stones when I try to refine any peace.
malero on Oct. 25, 2024
A lot of people don't like the randomness of Orbs of Mastery and Whetstones and I will most likely be changing them to require 1 Whetstone for each refinement level and 10 Orb of Mastery for each Skill Mastery level. I really like random mechanics like this, but I know it can be frustrating when you hit a bad luck streak.
One of the inspirations of this game is one of my favorite games, Path of Exile. In that game, there are a ton of different orbs that have a random chance to do various things to equipment and other items. For example, there's an orb called Orb of Fusing that changes the number of links on your equipment. One of the first things you want to do in that game is get a 6-link armor or 6-link 2-handed weapon. On average, it takes around 1,400 Orbs of Fusing to get a 6-link. I've had bad luck streaks where it has taken over 3,000 Orbs of Fusing to 6 link an item. While that feels bad, I've also had some extremely lucky attempts where I use 5 to 10 Orbs of Fusing and 6-link an item on the first day of a new league. It feels amazing when that happens. But it does feel really bad for it to take many more than the average.
The big difference between orbs in Gacha Pets and orbs in Path of Exile is that in Path of Exile, the randomness leads to a finished item where you don't need to use the orb anymore because you're done. In Gacha Pets, there's no real limit with equipment refining, so getting lucky doesn't feel as good as it does in Path of Exile because you're still not done and have to continue using more Whetstones.
malero on Oct. 25, 2024
Just to clarify what I meant by "1 Whetstone for each refinement level and 10 Orb of Mastery for each Skill Mastery level" here are a few examples:
Going from skill mastery 0 to 1 will cost 10, 1 to 2 will cost 20, and so on. This is actually an increase in orbs of mastery required, so I'd have to increase the drop rate.
For equipment refining, it would cost 1 Whetstone to go from +0 to +1, 2 to go from +1 to +2, and so on. So going from 99 to 100 would cost 100. I think people would like this a lot more, even if the previous 1% chance requires fewer orbs from +100 on.
Hi Malero, I think the change would be great actually, I'm having a lot of trouble refining my equipment so even though a challenge is fun, please make it a little bit easier. Thanks!😌
Malero I don't think you need to do anything to the amount of orbs it takes to get pet skills up to 10. There have been some skills that took less than 100 orbs of mastery to get to level 10 and sometimes it would take around 200 or more. I've even had skills that took less than 50 orbs to get to mastery level 10. I think this is fine. With your example it would take 550 orbs to get skills up to mastery level 10. That would mean we would need a lot more orbs of mastery and I think it would take a lot longer to level skills.
I like the idea of increasing the amount of whetstones by 1 for each refinement of equipment. We would already know that it would take 210 whetstones to get equipment refined to 20.
I think the drop rate for Whetstones should be increased a little. Orbs of various types are fine the way they are.
I agree, if Whetstones were as common as orbs of mastery, that would be a great solution.